Tim Kaine actually said...

I am glad we are having this hearing today. I appreciate the Chairman and Ranking Member for working on it.

I would suggest, and I think the Ranking Member got into this a bit in her questions as well, that if we are going to be doing these audits,...

For purposes of making the policy decisions that we have to make, we obviously have to grapple with the cost and efficiencies that were the ...

However, we also have to grapple with the consequences to patients of hospitals like VCU of cuts and try to balance those out.