On the recordJune 16, 2004
I will reply to that. My criminal penalty is under existing statutes, which were carefully debated by the Congress and have been on the lawbooks for a number of years. I will soon address the Senate as to how long these statutes have been in place. That is the basic difference. My statutes don't have in it 'materially overvalues any good or service.' I say to my good friend, that is too vague on which to send someone, as we used to say, as an old prosecutor, 'up the river.' I don't care whether it is 20 or 30 years. I don't know how the burden of proof of 'materially overvalues' is reached. You are asking for a criminal penalty predicated on that phrase.
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