Mark Warner actually said...

It's about saving lives as we've seen some of the data shown particularly from the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan, the amount of harm tha...

Thank God he had the vision and the political support at that point to kind of make that kind of that transition.

I guess I would simply just add, I know our time is running about up. But that the more we can really measure as I think one of the folks te...

Let me ask. I think this will be for you, Mr. Hicks, but maybe somebody else wants to jump in.