06/10/2009
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"you have a reputation, well deserved, of being one of the finest diplomats in the State Department"
"There certainly are other forces in Libya extremist groups including some who have fought in Afghanistan and elsewhere who we have been concerned about for a long time."
"So we have official diplomatic relations with the Qaddafi regime?"
"we are supporting a movement yet to be fully defined and in my view in its attempt to overthrow a government which we still formally recognize."