Gerry Connolly actually said...

Fraud's a different matter. Fraud, I've got to go after it.

We in Congress also need to take responsibility for our part in this.

I mean--and I--this is not a new question, because I remember--unless I'm smoking something, but at this very room, this very subcommittee, ...

I would love to see a--sort of a spitball strategy that says--okay. In theory, we know we can't ever get to zero.