Orrin Hatch: “If I can just respond to the distinguished Senator from California, I would prefer ``intends and knows'' rather than…”

“If I can just respond to the distinguished Senator from California, I would prefer ``intends and knows'' rather than ``intends or knows'' because I believe that can lead to some mischief in the criminal law. On the other hand, this was a narrow interpretation. I agree with the distinguished Senator from Delaware. I am not sure that you can catch them on a conspiracy statute in this area. I do not remember the law with regard to the explosives. But whether that is so or not, as I understand it, the word likely will be stricken in the amendment.”