Orrin Hatch: “Not really. Not really. Not really, other than some who relied on Mr. Bender's comments. And I might add that Mr. Bender…”

“Not really. Not really. Not really, other than some who relied on Mr. Bender's comments. And I might add that Mr. Bender worked for Seth Waxman, who rebutted what Mr. Bender said, and put his reputation on the line as a Democrat former Solicitor General, and speaks very favorably on all of those issues with regard to Mr. Estrada. I would certainly give much more credibility to Mr. Waxman than I would to Mr. Bender, who I think has acted reprehensibly under the circumstances.”