Jason Chaffetz: “Until the agency provides that information, we have reason to believe that there is a lot of waste, fraud, and abuse.”

Any quick visit to San Juan County, and you would quickly find out that getting to school is a major production.

This was widely regarded as one of the worst governance systems in the world.

Once you do get to the schools, you understand that they aren't the best that we can possibly provide.

So, to suggest that there was not a dialogue, you can point to President Obama. He never listened to us.