Jason Chaffetz actually said...

It's very difficult to legislate common sense.

Well, as you said, it's very difficult to legislate common sense.

Well, the Ethics Committee in general is fairly impotent. Usually, it's -- the voters have to deal with this and make these types of decisio...

Well, there was no quid pro quo. We could not directly tie somebody's vote directly to getting this benefit as the report points out.