Jason Chaffetz: “I want straight talk from you. Are you or are you not going to provide that to us?”

This was widely regarded as one of the worst governance systems in the world.

I do believe, in principle, that if you want the best result, you are going to look to the people at the most local level.

The legislation before you today does not convert any public land to private property.

The highest per-capita property tax in the state of Utah is down in this part.