On the recordMarch 24, 1994
I have not put a sharp pencil on the savings which the Senate would achieve if some of those changes were made, but I am confident that the elimination of some of the standing committees, as contemplated by the Rules Committee, and the elimination of some of the select committees, and some of the joint committees, as contemplated by the Joint Committee on Congressional Reform, would make it possible for us to achieve the kinds of savings that the amendment written by the Senator from Texas contemplates. I have learned in this world that one can talk about reforms, one can talk about changes and get a lot of enthusiasm for it, but one does not achieve those changes where there is money involved unless there are money caps that accompany the conversation. So I submit to this body that the approval of the amendment offered by the Senator from Texas will provide the impetus that the Rules Committee needs to achieve the kinds of reforms that were discussed in the hearing where I testified.
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