Ted Poe: “In 2004, we awarded Pakistan Major Non-NATO Ally status.”

That means we are losing. We are losing. Complex means we are losing.

Thank you for chairing this committee for so many years. It has been a wonderful privilege to be here with you.

Indefinitely might be a fair answer. Would you say that?

I would just hope that we would, our Government, the United States Government, would designate these two organizations as terrorist groups, proxies of Iran.