Kevin Brady actually said...

I think Mr. Bertoni's point, there has been some movement in that direction, but fairly small.

I don't think just modest changes will save this program. I think it is financially flawed.

the question is, how do we solve it?

I think it is operationally flawed, and at the heart of it is that we are addressing a 21st century challenge looking at it through a 1950s ...