05/26/2010
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"I commend the efforts that you have made and that you described, although I think we would have to all admit that it is just a tiny fraction of the money lost to health care fraud."
"The amounts of money that are essentially stolen from the American people are astronomical."
"I would note that the latest estimate I saw is that 18,000 people have lost their lives as a result of this violence since 2006."
"We have to come up with mechanisms--that probably means auditors and people like that--to prevent this from happening in the first place."