Joe Barton: “I think the discussion draft is an excellent document, and we can iron out the details through these hearings.”

It's obvious that, to me, anyway, this program is being abused.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I want to thank you, sir, for appearing voluntarily without subpoena and standing or sitting there all by yourself.

It is voluntary on a State basis.

You can tell that you have been president of a national organization. I am throwing you softballs, and you are being very ecumenical.