02/13/2013
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"If we had an effective low-carbon fuel standard, why would we need to apply an economy-wide cap-and-trade?"
"In plain English, it would not change behavior enough to cause people to drive less and reduce carbon."
"It is a rare opportunity, Madam Chairman."
"If we think that reducing that carbon is a good idea, what is the most sensible way to do it?"