02/08/2012
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"I do think that one of the things we can all do is to be more honest about the issue."
"the purpose of cap and trade is to drive up energy prices from things--from energy that's generated from fossil fuels."
"It's going to take a lot of tough sledding, if you will, to actually come to an end that makes sense."
"It's very good testimony, and I'm really glad you're having this hearing."