02/07/2017
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"Madam Secretary, is it a novelty for there to be lively, even intense disagreements, in the internal agency deliberations?"
"Are there any activities that you can identify, any at all, that were exempt from permitting requirements before this final rule?"
"Every pollutant regulation receives opposition. Every time, every member."
"It is very regrettable, because I think the Clean Water Rule has been very effective."