Jack Reed actually said...

I think it is really incumbent upon the regulators to figure out how to write a rule that allows legitimate hedging to go forward as it need...

For a nonfinancial company, you could be doing hedging as an end user, but you could also be very aggressive in your hedging.

That is, we've had an environmental education program through EPA for many, many years.

It's hard to address environmental challenges when our economy is strong, let alone when our current fiscal situation is challenging.