Jack Reed actually said...

For a nonfinancial company, you could be doing hedging as an end user, but you could also be very aggressive in your hedging.

I particularly appreciate your message that environmental protection is not only compatible, but it is, in fact, essential for the economic ...

Well, you know, that was my presumption too. So I think if you could clarify that, that would be helpful to us.

That is, we've had an environmental education program through EPA for many, many years.