Jack Reed actually said...

But I think, basically, the remaining question rests on this whole topic of how well they are doing maintaining the value as a conservator.

To take all those off the table and just sit pat I think is not the way to minimize losses going forward

I think you will have to, because you have identified this key fault line in the Agency.

I think we all have to be much more creative, and I think you have to be much more demanding in terms of those types of performance ends you...