Tim Murphy actually said...

I hope--sir, I'm asking if you can cite something for me and get back to us to show us where in the law it says you don't have to pay attent...

I understand, but you can't give the money if they're not going to pay it back.

So that was an option? That was an option?

Conscience is at the core of Catholic teaching, you said, but slavery was not left to personal decisions and conscience, thank goodness.