If I can, I say to the distinguished Senator from New York that there are isolated instances where the current law is working and, I think, from social science evaluations, modestly working. We have come in welfare to expect that modest improvement is as good as we will ever get. Maybe that is the case. I am not satisfied with that as a benchmark for the ceiling. I think what we need to do is, as I said, to stretch the envelope. While the Family Support Act of 1988 did create a window of opportunity for certain areas to get waivers and to try new things and to engage in work and other kinds of things, which we believe on this side and I know many on the other side believe is the way to go, we believe it needs to be more dramatic, that we need to do more and try new things. That is what this Dole-Packwood bill does, I think, and does it in a very dramatic way.
Editor's note · Context
Discussing welfare reform and the Dole-Packwood bill during Senate floor debate.
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