Lloyd Smucker: “The question is, if someone has very high income during retirement age, should they really be able to access Social…”

People like the four seasons here... But we have a lot of people who are relying on these programs… and we have seen fraud across the system in federal programs.

We can make it sustainable.

There are just a few outstanding issues. I think everyone will get to yes.

The allegations are really disturbing just as they are in Minnesota and other places where we've seen this.