Ron Wyden actually said...

I appreciate your candor, and the reason I'm asking the questions, again, is we've got a number of the timber organizations...

This was a bipartisan ripoff, in effect, where you would short the prevention accounts and have to constantly shovel more money out the door...

If we can't pass legislation like this, there will be no mills to do the work. Zero. They are not going to be here.

But when Mr. Riverwind was quoted in the paper saying there was no science to take the tree, what science was he referring to?