Ron Wyden actually said...

My own view is, unless there are fundamental changes, economic and environmental dangers that result from the lack of attention to these iss...

I sure wouldn't see the country's premier timber industry groups going to press conferences for bills that are going to produce more litigat...

Gentlemen, I don't have any other questions for either of you. Obviously, we'll hold the record open.

In my view is going to make it very hard to actually achieve the ideals.