Ron Wyden actually said...

So often, we forget about the families, and we don't really remember what the families are wrestling with.

So Ms. Dalton, we have gone round and round over the years on this question of what the agencies are doing to reduce fuels.

We need still, though, more resources to reduce hazardous fuels and suppress wildfires that do occur.

It all suggests from the experts that the number of acres that are being treated to actually reduce this problem of tremendous fuels buildup...