Ron Wyden actually said...

The fact is that in some high-cost States, when the senior shows up, they get a higher payment, and this is baked into the SGR as of now.

What can we do to start moving away from this kind of built-in disadvantage for people to hold costs down and deliver value?

Now, I would like to see us, particularly by closing some of the loopholes in the system, get lower than that.

We might generate $6 billion/$8 billion worth of projects, and the chairman and colleagues on both sides said, well, it is worth a try.