Ron Wyden actually said...

There's no question that having proposals that add up, that can be a model, you know, for the country, are critically, you know, important.

We just cannot have this situation, where it seems that most of the discussion, most of the focus goes to the urban.

I'll fight like crazy for those kinds of thinning programs.

I'm going to ask you, at every hearing when you're here, about what's being done to get more folks in place.