Peter DeFazio actually said...

is this ultimately a program whose objective is to really try and move people towards safer practices and companies towards safer practices,...

I would question the basis for that.

So 60 percent of the carriers out there are, at this point, somewhat disadvantaged by this system because they are not in the system because...

I still find it hard to believe if, you know, one person or one company had one incident where they were legally, properly, you know, stoppe...