Peter DeFazio actually said...

Or perhaps direction from Congress.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman, you have created such a great example early in the morning here, that I will also forego the opening statement.

Now this seems--and I have been quite involved in this--it seems to me that the Forest Service, where they rode more miles for about one-ten...

To Mr. Pettinger, on the terms of the loan and the other costs, let us just go over a couple of the other costs.