Peter DeFazio actually said...

Well, not under existing law. There are five States eligible under the pilots, but I'm saying if we made it a part of permanent law that Sta...

But I think we need to perhaps elevate that issue higher or look at whether the exception process is the right way to go.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

I think it's important to put an emphasis on looking at lower cost, more appropriate alternatives, that doesn't require you to take an excep...