Peter DeFazio actually said...

Which would be twice the size of your current State lands?

I think that would be a problem. I mean that has been a discussion in Oregon, our private lands are managed under State forest practices.

We tried it, it doesn't work. So I just wanted to make and kick off for the point about devolution.

I would suggest if we could find a dedicated revenue source; i.e., indexation, that we might borrow a bunch of money upfront on pretty short...