Jeff Merkley actually said...

Should we push for a policy in the IMF and World Bank that no loan, no grant project will go to any country that does not have complete tran...

It seems to me this is a case where it is a deliberate strategy to create leverage.

So Senator Young and I both referred to this Chinese debt trap strategy, and I am just going to restate it simply and see if you all concur ...

Thank you both very much.