Jeff Merkley actually said...

But those companies that transitioned, did they go out of business because of these higher costs you are referring to?

I will note that the process is new. It is relatively untested. It has all sorts of new complexities.

For generations, we have known the harmful and lethal effects of asbestos and the grave threat it poses to public health.

Good. I will just note that as Mr. Simon testified, now two-thirds of the production is done by the new cell membrane.