12/14/2011
https://www.congress.gov...
"It's the most horrific idea we have heard in the Northwest ever and take it off the table."
"But let me just point out ARPA-E has been reduced to zero in your budget."
"So if it's the Holy Grail why are we going from $41 million to $8 million with that $8 million not even clearly dedicated to research?"
"Yes, well defend it. Why are you cutting it to zero?"