If we could actually execute what GAO has outlined, you are talking $300 billion over the next 10 years.

We do not have real transparency and metrics on what we are doing.

Which consumes resources.

Is part of the reason we are having turnover because we cannot compete in the IT field for CIOs?

Is that something we should legislate on to give agencies more flexibility in terms of payments to be able to be competitive in the IT field?

the vast majority of the agencies did use their CIO to do this

My real concern is, as I said in my opening statement, how do we empower CIOs.

The way you get rid of trillion dollar deficits is a billion dollars at a time.

We are well intentioned. You are well intentioned. But we do not give people the authority to do what we ask them to do.

We did not come anywhere close to saving $24 billion for the American people.

I know, but the answer is you do not know-- I am not being critical.