Rob Portman actually said...

We have to have both, and as we're downsizing our military are we becoming too reliant on cyber defense.

We can't ignore the threats posed to the technological infrastructure by terrorist groups and other adversaries, like rogue hackers.

I think we balanced that in the budget submittal that's on the Hill.

We think the labs are a critical element to our ability to prepare for those threats, respond to those threats.