Rob Portman actually said...

We think the labs are a critical element to our ability to prepare for those threats, respond to those threats.

I want to hear, if I could, from the other two Service S&T folks.

I think you would all agree that without the scientists and engineers being world-class, we cannot have a world-class program.

With respect to cyber offense, modern warfare will demand, as you said Senator Portman, the effective use of both cyber and kinetic means.