Rob Portman actually said...

I think you would all agree that without the scientists and engineers being world-class, we cannot have a world-class program.

With respect to cyber offense, modern warfare will demand, as you said Senator Portman, the effective use of both cyber and kinetic means.

In a very tough budget environment, we see significant increases at DOD for cyber defenses, a $200 million increase from last year.

It does sound like it's a matter of pay, but also because it is exciting work...