Mike Turner actually said...

"Because just hitting the number, as you just described, is not the only issue."

"It is both a game of advocacy and a game of whack-a-mole."

"I think it is really difficult for us as policymakers to have people like yourself that have such important positions as the Principal Deputy Under Secretary of Defense for Policy to say that you don'..."

"we are letting somebody else see what we are doing and we are not getting to see what they are doing."