John Kasich: “I think it's very, very difficult if you are a divider.”

I think DeSantis is going to be a candidate, he'll will be -- it appear as a strong candidate, he's raised lots of money.

Well, I think he's got to be referred to the Ethics Committee. You know, first of all, you think about the fact should they not cede him? I mean, it crossed my mind and I've had discussions with people. The problem was that, Pamela, is the…

If you don't have an agenda, if you can't get people excited, you're going to have a problem.

What McCarthy ought to say is, it is reprehensible and he is going to be immediately referred to the Ethics Committee, and through that process, he could face expulsion.