John Kasich: “I don't like that. But look, he has calmed down actually.”

It is absolutely outrageous and the party should do it. There is no reason to be hiding on things like this.

I think if he's the nominee, and he runs, he is not going to be president.

Of course, he should, Pamela. He ought to be condemning how this guy was able to basically lie his way into office.

Let me just say one other thing, and that is, look, if there is anything this country needs, its leadership and its leadership across many different sectors of how our country works, whether it is business or sports, but in politics, this…