John Kasich: “Destroy ISIS, that's a given, and then after that great intelligence to make sure we can thwart these attacks and get…”

Of course, he should, Pamela. He ought to be condemning how this guy was able to basically lie his way into office.

Let me just say one other thing, and that is, look, if there is anything this country needs, its leadership and its leadership across many different sectors of how our country works, whether it is business or sports, but in politics, this…

I think DeSantis is going to be a candidate, he'll will be -- it appear as a strong candidate, he's raised lots of money.

I don't know why he just didn't say no. I mean, why wouldn't you say, no, I don't think he should be president.