John Kasich: “Let's become a party that can fix problems, not one that runs away or blames somebody else for it.”

Of course, he should, Pamela. He ought to be condemning how this guy was able to basically lie his way into office.

Let me just say one other thing, and that is, look, if there is anything this country needs, its leadership and its leadership across many different sectors of how our country works, whether it is business or sports, but in politics, this…

I think if he's the nominee, and he runs, he is not going to be president.

I think DeSantis is going to be a candidate, he'll will be -- it appear as a strong candidate, he's raised lots of money.