02/10/2015
https://congress.gov...
"To me, that is the $64,000 question."
"I just don't know how you can say it is not severe if you don't have a definition for severe."
"The only groups who were in fact targeted were conservative groups applying for 501(c)(4) status; no one else was targeted."
"But if it is just we are going to tell you what we think and we don't think it is severe, well, how do we know?"