05/05/2021
https://www.msnbc.com...
"What is the definition of severe harm? Without a definition, how in the world are we going to make a determination?"
"It would be nice if we had something objective. It would be nice if you had something objective so we could examine and see whether it makes sense or not."
"Well, that is the problem. That is our concern, because if there is no objective definition, if you can't tell me what severe is..."
"Is that not severe?"