Jim Jordan actually said...

That seems to be helping that individual who was in the system get to a better position in life, and just as importantly, help treat taxpaye...

Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for having this hearing and for our witnesses and the chairman for his work in this area, extensive work in this ar...

But they did get a job so that is a good thing and they are no longer living off the taxpayer.

I am asking you about Maine because Maine has done it. That is the one experiment we have that I think is working win-win-win.