Jim Jordan actually said...

This is why we have this committee, to get to the bottom of these kind of things.

Yes. So $144 billion across government, one of the most egregious agencies within that $144 billion is the Department of Education.

Isn't it true that last year there were $144 billion in improper payments across the government?

And one of the most egregious agencies that is part of that overall number is the guy sitting beside you, the Department of Education, is th...