07/12/2020
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"We must do more to protect these and similar social, recreational, and cultural facilities."
"I believe, can have a chilling--could have a chilling effect on whistleblowers in--I am speaking here specifically within DHS."
"I don't think this has to be an either/or proposition that you have good care, but you can't take care of the employee, or you take care of the employee and you have bad care."
"I figure since I have you in front of me I would just ask you directly. Did that happen?"